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Justin2

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 8:26 pm
Post subject: CD-RW drive...how do I burn music to play anywhere?
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I just got a PC with a CD-RW/DVD player combo drive. I've never had one
before and never messed with MP3's before. I'd like to be able to burn a
CD with all my favorite songs compiled from my audio CD's. Like throw a
few Doors songs, a few Pink Floyd songs, etc. on one CD to take with me. I
deliver/retrieve cars from new car dealerships, and it'd be neat to have a
CD with a lot of tunes on it to play in these cars on sometimes 5 hour
trips.

The software wants to decode it into MP3. If I burn MP3's onto a CD, can a
standard car audio CD player play it? Or is there another format I need to
use? Also I noticed that at the store they have CD-R's for music and for
PC use. Any difference? Also could I use a CD-RW disc to create this
greatest hits CD? Thanks for helping a newbie out.


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 9:43 pm
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This is what i use to burn Mp3's to standard CD-R's and play them in
my home and also in car cd player.


MP3 CD Maker 1.9

http://www.zy2000.com/index.html?zysoft190

I use 700mb 80 minute disks










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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 10:51 pm
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On 25 Jan 2004 17:26:51 -0600, Justin <rightbackatcha> wrote::

 >I just got a PC with a CD-RW/DVD player combo drive. I've never had one
 >before and never messed with MP3's before. I'd like to be able to burn a
 >CD with all my favorite songs compiled from my audio CD's. Like throw a
 >few Doors songs, a few Pink Floyd songs, etc. on one CD to take with me. I
 >deliver/retrieve cars from new car dealerships, and it'd be neat to have a
 >CD with a lot of tunes on it to play in these cars on sometimes 5 hour
 >trips.
 >
 >The software wants to decode it into MP3.

In future, If you've got multiple questions, please put them on
separate lines. It makes them a whole lot easier to reply to. It
also makes them easier for you to read later.

 >If I burn MP3's onto a CD, can a
 >standard car audio CD player play it?

No. If you have a CD/MP3 player, then you'd be able to play mp3 files
burned onto data discs. Several automotive and personal players with
this capability exist. You can easily figure this out because there
will be an mp3 logo somewhere on the player, and usually a HUGE mp3
logo or sticker plastered on the box and (even more usually) on the
store display.

These players are pretty nice, as you can rip your CD collection and
have 5 or 6 albums worth of music on a single MP3 compilation CD.
More if you decrease the bit-rate when you encode. That should be
more than enough for your 5 hour drive.

 >Or is there another format I need to
 >use?

If you want the disc to be playable on a regular CD player, you need
to burn them in CD-Audio format. I think it's officially called
"redbook".

Most burners ship with Nero Burning ROM or Roxio's EasyCD Creator.
Both have an option for creating an "audio CD". Often all you need
to do is start up the application, select that option and just drag
and drop the wav or mp3 files onto the compilation. The program will
do the conversion and then all you have to do is have it do the burn
on a fresh disc.

 >Also I noticed that at the store they have CD-R's for music and for
 >PC use. Any difference?

Yes. The "music" CDRs are more expensive. The price difference is
due to a levy (sort of like a tax) which goes to music associations
and companies to pay royalties, as these discs are assumed to be used
for making copies of music. Stand alone music CD burners often check
for a specific signature which indicates that this levy was paid
before they'll work. Only the music CDRs have this signature.

If you're burning on a PC, this signature is irrelevant. The only
other time you'd choose the music CDRs over PC CDRs is when you
absolutely need to burn at slow speed (1x to 4x), as these are pretty
much the only discs you can guarantee as burnable at slow speed these
days.

Other than that, no difference.

 >Also could I use a CD-RW disc to create this
 >greatest hits CD?

Yes. However, some audio players can be finicky about the media used.
Some older players won't even play CDRW discs at all. Automotive
players tend to be especially picky about the media types and brands
that they'll play with. Specifics depend on the actual player, so as
with the early days, you'll have to experiment a bit with different
brands and media types.

 >Thanks for helping a newbie out.
 >
 >


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jamotto

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:32 am
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Justin ...
 > I just got a PC with a CD-RW/DVD player combo drive. I've never had one
 > before and never messed with MP3's before. I'd like to be able to burn a
 > CD with all my favorite songs compiled from my audio CD's. Like throw a
 > few Doors songs, a few Pink Floyd songs, etc. on one CD to take with me. I
 > deliver/retrieve cars from new car dealerships, and it'd be neat to have a
 > CD with a lot of tunes on it to play in these cars on sometimes 5 hour
 > trips.
 >
 > The software wants to decode it into MP3.
What is the name of this software? I use Ahead Nero's Nero Express it
takes you step by step in creating a CD.

 > If I burn MP3's onto a CD, can a
 > standard car audio CD player play it? Or is there another format I need to
 > use?
Some of the newer cars now have the ability to read MP3's and WMA's.
However some cars do not in that case you will have to use the
standard audio CD format (a.k.a Redbook audio) this is just the format
that commercial CD's use like your Doors CD and your Pink Floyd CD.
So if the CD player can read CD-R's or CD-RW's then it will work.
Nero Express allows you to create either a MP3/WMA disc or a Standard
Audio Disc
 > Also I noticed that at the store they have CD-R's for music and for
 > PC use. Any difference?
Yes, CD-R's for music meet more standards that ensure the best sound
reproduction. If you are a music fanatic then buy the CD-R's for
music if not and wish to save money then buy the regular CD's
 > Also could I use a CD-RW disc to create this
 > greatest hits CD?
Sure, since CD-RW are rewritable then you can create a different
greatest hits CD for each trip you make. If you are planning to make
a permanent copy then use CD-R


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JT

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 3:37 am
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On 25 Jan 2004 17:26:51 -0600, Justin <rightbackatcha> wrote:

 >I just got a PC with a CD-RW/DVD player combo drive. I've never had one
 >before and never messed with MP3's before. I'd like to be able to burn a
 >CD with all my favorite songs compiled from my audio CD's. Like throw a
 >few Doors songs, a few Pink Floyd songs, etc. on one CD to take with me. I
 >deliver/retrieve cars from new car dealerships, and it'd be neat to have a
 >CD with a lot of tunes on it to play in these cars on sometimes 5 hour
 >trips.
 >
 >The software wants to decode it into MP3. If I burn MP3's onto a CD, can a
 >standard car audio CD player play it? Or is there another format I need to
 >use? Also I noticed that at the store they have CD-R's for music and for
 >PC use. Any difference? Also could I use a CD-RW disc to create this
 >greatest hits CD? Thanks for helping a newbie out.
 >
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What software came with your CD/RW DVD combo? It might already be able to
make music cds from MP3s. IF not, there are free programs out there that
will. Also, any CD/R will work as a music CD. You only need the ones
labeled "Music CD" for the stand alone cd copiers/recorders that are not
part of a computer. Some of the newer CD players will work with CDRWs, but
most won't.

JT
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jch

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 11:18 am
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"jamotto" wrote in message

 > Justin <rightbackatcha> wrote in message
...
  > > I just got a PC with a CD-RW/DVD player combo drive. I've never had one
  > > before and never messed with MP3's before. I'd like to be able to burn
a
  > > CD with all my favorite songs compiled from my audio CD's. Like throw a
  > > few Doors songs, a few Pink Floyd songs, etc. on one CD to take with me.
I
  > > deliver/retrieve cars from new car dealerships, and it'd be neat to have
a
  > > CD with a lot of tunes on it to play in these cars on sometimes 5 hour
  > > trips.
  > >
  > > The software wants to decode it into MP3.
 > What is the name of this software? I use Ahead Nero's Nero Express it
 > takes you step by step in creating a CD.
 >
  > > If I burn MP3's onto a CD, can a
  > > standard car audio CD player play it? Or is there another format I need
to
  > > use?
 > Some of the newer cars now have the ability to read MP3's and WMA's.
 > However some cars do not in that case you will have to use the
 > standard audio CD format (a.k.a Redbook audio) this is just the format
 > that commercial CD's use like your Doors CD and your Pink Floyd CD.
 > So if the CD player can read CD-R's or CD-RW's then it will work.
 > Nero Express allows you to create either a MP3/WMA disc or a Standard
 > Audio Disc
  > > Also I noticed that at the store they have CD-R's for music and for
  > > PC use. Any difference?
 > Yes, CD-R's for music meet more standards that ensure the best sound
 > reproduction. If you are a music fanatic then buy the CD-R's for
 > music if not and wish to save money then buy the regular CD's
  > > Also could I use a CD-RW disc to create this
  > > greatest hits CD?
  >>
 > Sure, since CD-RW are rewritable then you can create a different
 > greatest hits CD for each trip you make. If you are planning to make
 > a permanent copy then use CD-R

No!! Don't use CD-RW discs. You'll be disappointed when they don't play in
your car. Use CD-R discs which burn faster than CD-RWs anyway and will play
in almost every CD player.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:04 pm
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On 25 Jan 2004 17:26:51 -0600, Justin <rightbackatcha> wrote:

 >I just got a PC with a CD-RW/DVD player combo drive. I've never had one
 >before and never messed with MP3's before. I'd like to be able to burn a
 >CD with all my favorite songs compiled from my audio CD's. Like throw a
 >few Doors songs, a few Pink Floyd songs, etc. on one CD to take with me. I
 >deliver/retrieve cars from new car dealerships, and it'd be neat to have a
 >CD with a lot of tunes on it to play in these cars on sometimes 5 hour
 >trips.
 >
 >The software wants to decode it into MP3. If I burn MP3's onto a CD, can a
 >standard car audio CD player play it?

No.

 > Or is there another format I need to
 >use?

CDDA. What you do is make sure your music files are in 16 bit 44.1 Khz
stereo, then have your mastering program make them into and audio CD.

 > Also I noticed that at the store they have CD-R's for music and for
 >PC use. Any difference?

The music ones are "royalty paid" for use on standalone recorders.
Players don't care, so the PC ones will work fine for audio CDs.

 > Also could I use a CD-RW disc to create this
 >greatest hits CD?
Not for universal playability. CDRW capable players are few and far
between, especially in OEM decks.

 >Thanks for helping a newbie out.
 >
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:44 am
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Justin ...
 > I just got a PC with a CD-RW/DVD player combo drive. I've never had one
 > before and never messed with MP3's before. I'd like to be able to burn a
 > CD with all my favorite songs compiled from my audio CD's. Like throw a
 > few Doors songs, a few Pink Floyd songs, etc. on one CD to take with me. I
 > deliver/retrieve cars from new car dealerships, and it'd be neat to have a
 > CD with a lot of tunes on it to play in these cars on sometimes 5 hour
 > trips.
 >
 > The software wants to decode it into MP3. If I burn MP3's onto a CD, can a
 > standard car audio CD player play it? Or is there another format I need to
 > use? Also I noticed that at the store they have CD-R's for music and for
 > PC use. Any difference? Also could I use a CD-RW disc to create this
 > greatest hits CD? Thanks for helping a newbie out.
What make's of car are you delivering if you are driving Jag's they
come with Alpine's which will read both CD-R and CD-RW, Or are you
driving something less umm, exotic like a Ford Escort that will read
CD-R's but not CD-RW's(From what a friend of mine told me).
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:07 am
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CD-RW's are notorious for only playing in computer CD-ROM's; won't play in
car or stand alone players. Also, car CD players won't decode MP3's.

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"Justin" <rightbackatcha> wrote in message

 > I just got a PC with a CD-RW/DVD player combo drive. I've never had one
 > before and never messed with MP3's before. I'd like to be able to burn a
 > CD with all my favorite songs compiled from my audio CD's. Like throw a
 > few Doors songs, a few Pink Floyd songs, etc. on one CD to take with me.
I
 > deliver/retrieve cars from new car dealerships, and it'd be neat to have a
 > CD with a lot of tunes on it to play in these cars on sometimes 5 hour
 > trips.
 >
 > The software wants to decode it into MP3. If I burn MP3's onto a CD, can
a
 > standard car audio CD player play it? Or is there another format I need
to
 > use? Also I noticed that at the store they have CD-R's for music and for
 > PC use. Any difference? Also could I use a CD-RW disc to create this
 > greatest hits CD? Thanks for helping a newbie out.
 >
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:29 pm
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 > What software came with your CD/RW DVD combo? It might already be
 > able to make music cds from MP3s. IF not, there are free programs out
 > there that will. Also, any CD/R will work as a music CD. You only need
 > the ones labeled "Music CD" for the stand alone cd copiers/recorders
 > that are not part of a computer. Some of the newer CD players will
 > work with CDRWs, but most won't.
 >
 > JT
 >


Thanks for all the advice. There were like 5 apps on the PC pertaining to
mp3's/CD-RW stuff. The Nero Burning ROM software is easy to use, the "Burn
Wizard" walks you through it. I bought 10 CD-R's for $4 on sale and have
burnt 3 audio CD's and they work great. I burn them at the highest quality
setting -- 192 kbps in simple audio CD format. I'm no audiophile, but I
can't tell the difference between what I burnt and the original CD's. Is
there any difference at all?



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